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I had the privilege of interviewing Liz Moore a couple times already.

The first time we had a horrible technology snafu, and she was very cool about letting me move platforms at the last minute and

doing our podcast via Zoom basically. Anyway, so that was fun and that's what you're going to listen to

now. So at the beginning, I think we might have both been a little bit flustered since I had so many

tech problems on my end.

But I think I calmed down towards the end.

I also got a chance to interview her on Instagram Live.

So if you want to see visuals of us, you can watch us on IG Live.

And she'll be at my book club.

We'll be discussing Long Bright River, which is Liz Moore's bestselling novel,

and was a GMA book club pick at my June 9th. I think I'm getting that right, at my June 9th virtual book club. And if you haven't joined my virtual book club yet, you should. I do it through book clubs, B-O-O-K-C-L-U-Z.com, bookclubs with a Z. And it's just a coincidence that it's a Z, even though it's in my name. Anyway, bookclubs.com, and we will be reading her book and talking about that from 2 p.m. to 2.30 p.m. on June 9th, Eastern Time, and then she joins us from 230 to the 3. And I do my book clubs every Tuesday. So, anyway, Liz Moore is not only the best-selling author of a Long Bright River, but she's also the author

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