Hi everyone, welcome to Add Home with Sally. I'm Sally Clarkson and I have the biggest

privilege in the world to be with so many friends from all over the world who join me every

week to listen to my stories, inspiration, biblical encouragement. And I am just so glad

that you're here today. Thanks so much for joining me.

Hi my friends, I hope you've had a great week and I am so excited because I am getting ready

to go overseas to see my precious new grandbaby, little Samuel Frank. And I was sitting with

these friends this morning. Actually, we have been friends for a long time and we meet on a regular

basis. And we had such a good conversation that I thought it would be really fun if I just would

let them be in in the conversation because we're actually coming to the point in my series on

Desperate where I was going to talk about Faith versus Formula. And so I just want you to welcome

with me today, my sweet friend's Margaret and Holly. I think you've heard them before. They've been

on with me before. And they're in a little bit different phase of life and they're both way

beyond just babyhood. So each of you tell just right where you are for the new people who don't know

you yet, where you are and we'll jump in to how we have all had to learn that you cannot live by

Formula or you will always feel like you're a failure. So Margaret, you want to go first?

Yes. I'm Margaret and I have six children ages 21 down to 11. Okay, great. Yeah.

I'm Holly and I have four kids, three girls and a boy and 14 down to seven.

So and I've known these precious ones for a long time. And the reason we got into this conversation

this morning or actually it was the last time we were together is we were kind of talking about

when we had all met each other and gone through different phases and stuff. And I think that part

of the problem, one of the reasons that women feel desperate is they have kind of an illusion

until you get over it. You have this illusion that if you just get the right daytimeer or if you just

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