We've thought wrongly about persecution. We need to accept it not in anger but as a privilege.

And then we have to ask ourselves, are we training our children with those kinds of values?

Or are we going to give the culture whatever the culture wants?

That's Dr. Irwin Lutzer talking about the challenging times we're living in

and our responsibilities and opportunities as believers to represent Christ in our culture.

Thanks for joining us today for Focus on the Family with Jim Daley. I'm John Follin.

John, we're going to continue a great conversation I felt that we had yesterday.

And we're going to continue to talk about the culture, about the Christian's requirement to live in this culture and how to express ourselves.

And I thought it was good if you missed it last time. Get the download, download the app, focus on the Family app.

And you can listen that way. But what a tremendous conversation.

Wide-ranging topics of LGBTQ and schools and universities and businesses and the things that kind of the woke culture is trying to put on us right now

and how to defend those things that we believe in in a way that uplifts God's character at the same time.

There's a scripture I think it's fitting for our discussion. Paul wrote in First Corinthians,

When we are cursed, we bless. That doesn't go down well with the flesh, does it?

But when we're cursed, we bless. When we are persecuted, we endure it. When we are slandered, we answer kindly.

And it goes on to say that the world considers us like garbage. I mean, that's what the word says.

And that's what the early church was dealing with. And we generally in the Western Hemisphere, we've had a pretty good run where Christianity has been deeply respected.

It's been the foundation for expansion and great human flourishing, which is what the Lord provides when we pursue Him.

But now it's under siege and people don't like it. And it divides supposedly.

And we're going to talk today with one of our great guests, Dr. Erwin Luther, who's written a wonderful book called No Reason to Hide.

I love it. It's like, what? Don't hide. And it's going to be a great discussion.

I agree, Jim. And yesterday had such fantastic insights from Dr. Luther. And I should note we have the book here. No reason to hide standing for Christ in a collapsing culture.

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