Today we have these cultural streams that are so powerful that it's almost impossible to stand against them.

But Booker T. Washington said these words, evil doesn't become good and wrong doesn't become right just because the majority believes it to be so.

That's Dr. Irwin Lutzert and he's our guest today on Focus on the Family, sharing his thoughts about the rising challenges we have in today's culture.

He has a lot to say in the conversation today. Your host is Focus President and author Jim Daley and I'm John Fuller.

John, at times it seems like the sky is falling isn't it? Especially if you're listening to cable news.

Oh my goodness.

It just kind of prays on our anxiety. But our assurance, guess what? As Christians is found in Christ, nobody else, nothing else, no other circumstances.

And we want to have a discussion that is inspiring and hopeful but also realistic about the times we're living in.

It's kind of like the barrens. You know, they knew the times that they were in and they searched the scripture to know how to react in those times.

And I'm looking forward to our discussion today.

What does living for Christ mean in the culture that we're in? Dr. Lutzert has been a very well-respawned to guests by the listeners.

And I know you love his biblical perspective and I'm looking forward to talking with Dr. Lutzert today.

Yeah, he's a pastor emeritus at Moody Church in Chicago where he served as senior pastor for 36 years.

Dr. Lutzert has written a number of books. The one that forms the foundation for a conversation today is called No Reason to Hide Standing for Christ in a Collapsing Culture.

Stop by the website to get your copy. The link is in the show notes or call us at 1-800-The Letter A in the Word Family.

Dr. Lutzert, welcome back to focus. We love having you here.

It's so good to have you here. And how many years were you a pastor?

I was a pastor of Moody Church for 36 years. Previous to that, I was the pastor of a Baptist Church in Chicago for five.

So if you do the math, it would be over 40 years. That's a great contribution to the body of Christ. Now which one did you like better?

No, don't answer that question. It's just so good to see. And you have given so much deep thought. That's what I respect.

Your writings are so full of wisdom. And I sincerely mean that. I mean, a lot of people write at the surface level.

But you really think about the things that we're going through as a culture. And I think your books are the most profound right now about how Christians should behave in culture.

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