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Past Present Future

Live Special: Who Rules the World? Trump, Tech and the Fight for the Future

Past Present Future

D&HR Media Ltd

History, Politics, News, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7 • 747 Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Today’s episode was recorded in front of a live audience at the Cheltenham Literature Festival: David talks to Bruno Maçães and Sarah Wynn-Williams about who is winning in the fight for control between China and America, between state power and corporate power and between AI and humanity. Where are the battlegrounds in the fight for the future? What are the weapons? And how will we know what victory looks like? Out now on PPF+: A bonus episode with more of your questions and suggestions for how to fix democracy and more answers from the two Davids. Should MPs be chosen by lottery? What has happened to the centre-right? Which needs fixing first: democracy or capitalism? To get this and all our bonus episodes plus ad-free listening sign up to PPF+ today https://www.ppfideas.com/join-ppf-plus The 4th film in our autumn Films of Ideas season at the Regent Street Cinema in London is coming up on Weds 5th November: a screening of Derek Jarman’s Wittgenstein followed by a live recording of PPF with writer and philosopher Nikhil Krishnan. Get your tickets now https://bit.ly/47bsJcN Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello, my name's David Rundsenman and this is past-present future, the History of Ideas podcast.

1:15.6

Today, our episode is a live recording at the Cheltenham Literature Festival a couple of weeks ago, where I was joined by Bruno Massage and Sarah Wyn Williams in front of a very large audience,

1:30.4

and we were talking about who rules the world, Trump, Tech and the fight for the future.

1:43.2

We are going to play you, our recording of this event, and you will hear me introduce our

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