LIVE IN NYC: American Psychodrama with Tony Kushner and Jeremy O. Harris

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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🗓️ 17 December 2019

⏱️ 66 minutes

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In the final stop of our Fall tour, we invited playwrights Tony Kushner and Jeremy O. Harris to talk about all things spectacle, storytelling, and how they relate to this political moment. They are both artists who use their firm grounding in our own reality to give life to alternate worlds, ones full of drama and conflict and pathos. In this hour, they discuss the ways they hope their art echoes through time, what it means to make art in this moment, why Jeremy O. Harris thinks Donald Trump is actually a pretty uninteresting character, and so much more. Find tickets for A Bright Room Called Day Find tickets for Slave Play

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0:00.0	Both whiteness and melness are in crisis right now.
0:02.6	You know what I mean?
0:03.4	Right, exactly.
0:04.2	Like literally there's a crisis of extinction.
0:07.0	And it's a fake extinction, you guys.
0:10.4	You're not going anywhere.
0:11.6	You're going to be fine.
0:12.6	You're going to be fine.
0:15.2	Hello, and welcome to Wise is happening with me,
0:17.1	your host, Chris Hayes.
0:18.8	Well, the moment you've been waiting for,
0:20.4	I've been waiting for, which is our final live
0:23.0	with pod of the season.
0:24.4	I'm going to do a little setup, giving you
0:26.4	like some kind of glossary items background
0:28.8	to help you better follow the conversation that we had
0:31.2	at Town Hall with Tony Kushner and Jeremy Harris.
0:33.1	If you feel like you don't want to listen to that,
0:34.4	you can just skip ahead.
0:35.2	This is about three minutes.
0:36.3	Just, you know, we talk a little bit about two of Tony's plays.
0:39.1	One of them is Agile's in America, which is this epic two-part
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