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🗓️ 20 March 2025
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Serial entrepreneurs and investors Mike and Kass Lazerow are best known for co-founding Buddy Media, the social media marketing platform that sold to Salesforce for $745 million. Host Jeff Berman joined the Lazerows on stage at the 2025 SXSW conference to discuss their extraordinary career journey as co-founders and spouses. They’ve distilled their most meaningful business lessons into a new book: Shoveling $h!t: A Love Story About the Entrepreneur's Messy Path to Success.
Book details: https://shovelingshit.com/
Note: Kass Lazerow is on the board of WaitWhat — the company that makes this podcast.
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0:40.6 | Hey, listeners, it's Jeff Berman. We have some very exciting news. This October 7th through 9th, |
0:46.3 | the Masters of Scale Summit is returning to the iconic Presidio Theater in San Francisco for three |
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1:24.1 | Hey folks, Jeff Berman here. |
1:26.9 | I got the chance to talk to my very old and very dear friends, |
1:31.4 | Cass and Mike Lazaro, on stage at South by Southwest earlier this month, |
1:35.3 | and we wanted to share that conversation with you. |
1:41.3 | Cass and Mike are two of the very smartest, very best entrepreneurs, investors, and humans, I know, |
1:50.0 | and I've had the pleasure of watching them work, working with them for a very long time now. |
1:57.1 | I was on their board at Buddy Media, the SaaS company that they built from scratch from the ground up, and eventually sold to Salesforce for nearly a billion dollars. |
2:07.7 | And now Cass is on the board of, wait what, the company that makes this podcast. So we're keeping this all very much in the family this week. |
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