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Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Little Happier: Willie Wonka, Rat Poison, Neediness, and the Transformative Power of Love

Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Lemonada Media

Education, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement

4.713.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2024

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

A sweet story about a dog named Sparkle reveals many truths about the nature of love, sacrifice, independence, and marriage. Get in touch: podcast@gretchenrubin.com Follow on social media: @GretchenRubin on YouTube @GretchenRubin on TikTok @GretchenRubin on Instagram @GretchenRubin on Threads Get the podcast show notes by email every week: happiercast.com/shownotes Get Gretchen Rubin’s newest book Life in Five Senses to see how she discovered a surprising path to a life of more energy, creativity, luck, and love: by tuning in to the five senses. Now available - order here. Visit Gretchen's website to learn more about Gretchen's best-selling books, products from The Happiness Project Collection, and the Happier app.    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Gretchen Rubin and this is a little happier. I love memoirs and years ago I read

0:06.8

It's Always Something, the terrific memoir by actor and comedian Gilda Radner and I also read Kiss Me Like a Stranger, the equally terrific memoir by actor, comedian, and

0:17.8

writer Gene Wilder.

0:20.0

These two huge stars were married in 1984 and were married until Gilda Radner died from ovarian

0:26.6

cancer in 1989.

0:29.6

You may remember Gilda Radner as Roseanne, Roseanna Dana, or Baba Wawa, on the TV show Saturday Night Live,

0:36.6

where she was one of the seven original cast members.

0:40.1

You may remember Jean Wilder as Willie Wka in the original movie of Willie Wunka

0:44.7

and the chocolate factory or from the movie Young Frankenstein, which he co-wrote and

0:49.1

starred in as Dr Frederick Frankenstein. Reading the two memoirs together was very interesting because at some points, as a reader,

0:59.6

I was able to see both of their perspectives about the same situations.

1:05.0

In particular, the double story of how they came to get married

1:08.9

has stuck with me for more than a decade.

1:12.5

According to Gilda Radner's version,

1:15.2

she'd been a longtime fan of Jean Wilder's work,

1:18.4

and the first time they met,

1:20.0

she fell hard in love. But the situation was complicated. She was married and

1:26.6

Jean had been married and divorced twice and wasn't eager to get married again. She

1:31.2

had just bought a house in Connecticut and he lived in Los Angeles.

1:35.0

Time passed. Gilda got a divorce and the two of them lived together on and off for two and a half years.

1:41.0

Gilda really, really wanted to get married and she did

1:47.0

everything she could to bring that about. At one point they broke up because

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