Literally Becoming a Better Leader | An Interview with Ryan Gottfredson

Leading Saints Podcast

Leading Saints

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.9 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Ryan Gottfredson, Ph.D. is a cutting-edge leadership development author, researcher, and consultant. He helps organizations vertically develop their leaders primarily through a focus on mindsets. Ryan is the Wall Street Journal and USA Today best-selling author of Success Mindsets, The Elevated Leader, and Becoming Better. He is also a leadership professor at the College of Business and Economics at California State University-Fullerton.

Links

RyanGottfredson.com
Personal mindset assessment
Vertical development assessment
Ryan's books:
Becoming Better: The Groundbreaking Science of Personal Transformation
Success Mindsets: The Key to Unlocking Greater Success in Your Life, Work, & Leadership
The Elevated Leader: Leveling Up Your Leadership Through Vertical Development
Previous podcasts with Ryan:
What About Our Culture is Holding Us Back?
Is There a Correlation Between Losing Faith and Moving?
The Research Behind Becoming Christlike
Is Your Mindset Limiting Your Leadership?
What Every Leader Should Consider About Community in Their Ward
Articles by Ryan at LeadingSaints.org
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Read the transcript of this podcast
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Highlights
Ryan talks about personal development and becoming better leaders through understanding our own complexities and healing. He explores the science of sanctification and the difference between merely doing better and truly becoming better, focusing on our "being side"—the quality of our internal operating system—rather than just our "doing side," which encompasses our skills and knowledge. Learning this distinction can help leaders as they support others who are struggling in their lives.

Ryan explains how our relationships with risk, failure, conflict, and even ourselves can reveal the quality of our being. Many leaders operate from a place of fear or insecurity, which can limit their effectiveness and impact. Ryan explores the concept of the "window of tolerance," which refers to our ability to manage stress and emotional responses. He explains how a narrow window can lead to reactivity, while a wider window allows for greater emotional regulat...

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0:07.1	Latter-day Saints than you think. Scrupulosity is religious, obsessive, compulsive disorder,
0:12.8	where individuals are hyper-obsessed about their worthiness and repentance. Sam Baxter, a former bishop,
0:18.7	sat down with me to talk about his lifelong struggle with scrupulosity and how he got treatment.
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1:09.0	That's why we exist to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead
1:12.6	by being familiar with others' leadership experiences,
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1:20.9	That's why I'm glad you found the Leading Saints podcast.
1:24.1	We hope you will dive into the archives and visit LeadingSaints.org to find out what are the top, most listened to episodes on the podcast. We hope you will dive into the archives and visit leadingsaints.org to find out what are the
1:28.6	top most listened to episodes on the podcast. Welcome. You're going to love it.
1:37.2	We're back for another leading saints episode and I'm excited. Welcome back. A recurring guest that is
1:42.4	Ryan Gottfretzen, an author, a professor
1:45.2	of leadership, and every time I connect with Ryan, it's just such good conversations.
1:50.5	I hope you enjoy this as much as I do, and maybe I talk too much in these, I don't know,
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