Hey there, welcome back to the Going Scared Podcast. I'm Jessica Hanager, founder of the

World Changing Brand New Day Collection. Our Going Scared community gathers here every

week for direct and honest conversations that help you live a life of courage by leaving

comfort and going scared. And we are down to the number one I'm doing the drum roll, I'm

doing the drum roll, it's the moment you've all been waiting for. Our number one most

downloaded episode is the one and the only and there is really one and only. Bob, goff

and our conversation over being kind, over being right. And this came out even before

everyone needed to be right in the world. Bob is so prophetic, he's always on to something.

I mean, are we surprised? Who doesn't love Bob? He's just a good guy. He brings joy.

He helps us all to just kick back and breathe a little bit. And he is the New York Times

bestselling author and speaker. He's inspired millions to dream big, take risk and live

a life of love. So I love that this is your favorite because Bob and I just, we have that

in common where we want you to get out there, care about social justice, but do it in

a way that's disarming to others. And he is the founder of love does, which is a nonprofit

organization that operates schools and pursues justice for children and conflict and Uganda,

Iraq, Somalia. He's got an infectious energy, a joyful spirit. And in this episode, he shares

with us his personal journey of learning to prioritize kindness over being right.

Hey, Bob, welcome to today's episode of going scared. Hey, thanks, Samil, you're for having me.

It's great being with you. So I was sitting with my family on Sunday night. We were all kind

of going around riffing about our upcoming week. And I named a couple of folks I was interviewing

for the podcast. And I mentioned your name in my eight year old says, well, who's that? And my

husband says, it's a man famous for being joyful. Oh, that's awesome. That would be a great

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