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Hi, God.

Hey, everybody. I'm Mandy Patinkin.

And I'm Catherine Grotty. And we have a new podcast. It's called Don't Listen to Us.

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Well, it's the holiday season, and you might be traveling or wishing you were home or maybe missing somebody or baking or bored.

But regardless, it is a hard time to be a human in the world right now.

There is so much that divides us.

There's so much that's keeping us apart.

And there can be times where that just makes it hard to see the people in front of

us as beloved in any way. So I thought it might be a nice time to have a re-listen to a conversation

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