All right, welcome everyone to this latest in our Unlock series.

And our guest who just introduced herself is Lisa Nandhi, the MP for Wigan, who is Labour's shadow secretary for international development. And there's loads of stuff to talk about,

Lisa. But actually, the first question I want to ask, and I sort of know how you're going to

answer, but, you know, I know you're going to talk about if you get the privilege of being

elected and, you know, we don't take anything for granted. I mean, I know Labour Together, I notice are doing an event tonight

on how Labour can lose, which sounds very on-brand.

But it must be fantastic being a front-bench Labour MP at the moment,

isn't it? You're miles ahead in the polls.

It must just feel brilliant compared to some of the years you've been through in Parliament.

Well, I got elected in 2010.

Yeah.

So I've had 14 years of a ringside seat to the destruction that's been done to people in places like Wigan and around the world.

And so it might sound like a cliche, but actually we are, we are, there is a level of anxiety

about the next general election because everything is at stake, not just for Labor,

but for the country.

And there's a high level of anticipation, you're right, and it's a very odd dynamic.

You know, David Lamy and I do a lot of travelling.

We've been in the Middle East in particular a lot in the last few months.

We are being treated by many of our partners as the incoming government, but we've got to win an election,

and we really don't take anything for granted, not least because, as you and I have discussed before,

I've kind of given up predicting anything in British politics after the events of the last decade.

And because actually, you know, as well as the very, very difficult economic situation in this country for most people now,

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