Lisa Monaco and Wayne Williams on Protecting the 2018 Election
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 24 April 2018
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Eric Rosenbach moderates a conversation between former homeland security adviser Lisa Monaco and current Colorado Secretary of State Wayne Williams on election security.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:32.6 | In 2016, I think we really underestimated the reaction to the federal government's discussion |
| 0:41.2 | about dubbing election infrastructure, election systems about dubbing that critical infrastructure. |
| 0:48.1 | Now the flip side is, had we thought about it from a federal perspective as critical infrastructure |
| 0:53.8 | earlier on, we might have been incentivized to build that type of scaffolding that we |
| 0:58.2 | now have. |
| 0:59.2 | We didn't. |
| 1:00.2 | And I think we did underestimate the reaction the states would have, which was quite |
| 1:05.3 | skeptical in many instances, hostile to the sense that the federal government was now |
| 1:09.7 | been in dub the state election systems as critical infrastructure. |
| 1:13.7 | And what did that mean? |
| 1:15.2 | Misperceptions about a federal takeover of elections, etc. |
| 1:18.8 | So I think that unfortunately set us back because the coin of the realm in this space |
| 1:24.4 | is voluntaryness. |
| 1:25.8 | I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast April 24, 2018. |
| 1:32.6 | With the 2018 midterm elections looming just seven months away and doubts about election |
| 1:38.8 | security still looming after 2016, you may be saying to yourself, the Russians are coming, |
| 1:46.6 | and what the heck are we going to do about it? |
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