This is moderate rebels. I'm Ben Norton, joined by my co-host Max Blumenthal, and we've seen in the past few

weeks a massive uprising across the United States against police violence, systemic racism,

and really the kind of the incredible violence of the U.S. state. And here at moderate rebels,

we talk a lot about the violence of the U.S. state abroad, how this imperial violence plays out

really through bombing the entire planet, waging sanctions and economic warfare on the entire

planet. And those two things are really linked.

The extreme violence of police forces in the U.S.,

who on average kill about 1,000 people per year,

or three people per day on average,

that violence is really linked to the imperial violence abroad.

And we have talked about on the show, and at the gray zone we've published reporting

showing how, for instance, U.S. police forces have been trained with Israeli forces, occupation

forces.

We've talked about the extensive links between the national security state and these police forces

and NGOs and the government.

Well, we're also going to explore another thing today, though, that isn't really being

investigated and discussed by, certainly by corporate media, but it's also not even really being discussed

by many liberals and progressives

who support these protests.

And that's how the police forces are also,

not just militarized in the sense of using military equipment,

buying surplus military equipment,

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