Life Sentences by Stealth: Nate Interviews Sam Asumadu about IPPs

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🗓️ 13 February 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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In this special extra segment, Nate interviews Sam Asumadu from Media Diversified (@WritersOfColour) about the phenomenon of Indeterminate Sentences for Public Protection (IPPs), a now-banned sentence that has resulted in thousands of British residents effectively receiving life sentences for acts as minor as stealing a mobile phone at age 17. Sam’s written an article on the topic for OpenDemocracy, which is available here: https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/families-plea-over-barbaric-indefinite-prison-sentences-for-minor-crimes/ Check out Media Diversified’s Linktree here: https://linktr.ee/mediadiversified *MILO ALERT* Milo has a bunch of live shows this month in both London and Prague. Check them out here: https://www.miloedwards.co.uk/live-shows If you want access to our Patreon bonus episodes, early releases of free episodes, and powerful Discord server, sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/trashfuture *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here: https://www.tomallen.media/ Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to a special edition of Trash Future. It is me, Nate, today, the rest of the cast are off, but I have an opportunity to speak with Sam Osamadu from
0:24.9	Media Diversified about a specific issue, which is the unbelievable situation created by something
0:33.0	in the UK called indefinite sentences for public protection.
0:37.4	And Sam has done a ton of research and is campaigning
0:39.7	on this issue, something that I was completely unaware of. And, you know, when I have spoken to
0:45.3	other British friends about this, they are also mostly unaware of this. And so, Sam, I wanted to
0:50.6	welcome you to the show and give you an opportunity to sort of summarize at first what IPPs are and the kinds of situations you have encountered when researching this.
1:00.4	So thank you for inviting me on.
1:02.2	Firstly, I think I invited myself on.
1:03.7	I said I've written an article that's coming out in Open Democracy.
1:07.0	It's an exclusive.
1:08.0	Will you have me on to talk about it just to make sure things are on record?
1:12.1	So I should mention that and thank you.
1:15.4	But yes, so what they are, the sentences are basically,
1:21.3	they are something that came in in 2005.
1:24.9	It was in, yeah, 2005 by the then Justice Secretary of State, David Blunkett.
1:32.1	And so between 2005 and 2013, they were banned in 2012. They were deemed unlawful in 2012.
1:39.7	Anyway, between that time 2005 and 2013, actually, 8,711 people in England and Wales were given
1:47.1	this type of sentence, which is a de facto life sentence, basically, by the back door.
1:56.2	So basically, this sort of sentence, life sentences, were reserved before 2005 for people who had committed murder.
2:02.7	So the most serious cases of manslaughter, GBAH and rape.
2:09.2	However, in 2003, the Criminal Justice Act came in, which introduced the indeterminate sentence for public protection.
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