do do do do do do we go my name's Todd

this is Kathy welcome back to another episode of Zen parenting radio this is podcast

number 605 why listen to Zen parenting radio because you'll feel outstanding

and always remember our motto which is the best predictor of a child's well-being

is a parent's self-understanding.

On today's show,

I pulled up a few clips from an interview I heard

on a podcast called People I Mostly Admiar,

which is an off-branch podcast of the Freakonomics podcast.

And the guy, the interviewer, I forget his name, but I'll pull it up, interviewed.

Angela Duckworth.

Thank you, sweetie.

Angela Duckworth.

Which we actually talked about her a few podcasts ago.

But there were some things in this, because she's the person who kind of she's the one who did her

research about grit and brought that more mainstream and we also we discussed she how

she has helped us redefine what she meant by her research because a lot of people took grit

and ran with it in a direction of never give up.

And it's much more nuanced than that.

And the discussion that, you know, Todd is going to share actually goes in a lot of different

directions.

It's grit is kind of the, there's like an underlying,

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