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listening. Terms apply. Hi, this is Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist,

and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Unger. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, and speaker.

And this is Sarah Hart Unger. I'm a mother of three, a practicing physician, and blogger on the side.

We are two working parents who love our careers and our families. Welcome to Best of Both Worlds.

Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, and time for fun. From figuring out child care to mapping out long-term career goals, we want you to get the most out of life.

Welcome to Best of Both Worlds. This is Laura. This episode is airing in mid-April of

2023. We are doing the introduction a little differently today.

Sarah is just back from traveling and is on call this week, but I have a veteran podcaster with me

as our guest today. So we are going to go ahead and dive right into the interview. We are so excited

to welcome Gretchen Rubin. Gretchen Rubin is the author of the brand new book, Life in Five Senses,

How Exploring the Senses Got Me Out of My Head and Into the World.

She was a guest on Best of Both worlds many years ago,

and she joins us again today to talk about the five senses,

plus happiness and habits,

and lots of other listener questions that we had sent in for her.

So Gretchen, welcome to the show.

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