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Athol, thanks for joining us today.

It's a pleasure to be with you and I'm really looking forward to the conversation.

Yes, likewise, my friend.

I think it's very timely.

So how about you get us started by telling us a little bit about yourself and what you do?

Well, my professional life has been probably in three different acts, I think. Act

one. I worked with the BBC as a journalist and an executive on the news site, mainly on the television

news site, for quite a long time. Act two, I worked in various businesses as a change leader, as a director,

transformation change leader. And then now in Act three, hopefully not my final act,

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