Hello ladies, hello gentlemen. This is the Victor Davis Hanson show. I'm Jack Fowler, the host

Victor Davis Hanson is the star and namesake and he is also the Martin E. Leanderson,

senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne and Marsha Busky Distinguished Fellow in

History at Hillsdale College. We are going to be talking about lies and liars on today's

episode and actually I think Victor, we just discussed, we're trying to just discuss what we'll

be talking about but there was something you said Victor on our previous podcast. You made a

quick mention about your house up in the mountains and there's still in May, still 15 feet of snow

outside your house. Yes, yes, I mean the China Peak ski resort I think is going to be open

still this weekend in mid-May. I think the reason that they're planning to close down is that

you know people gravitate to other outdoor activities. They don't associate May and June with

skiing when you can be on the lake and the boat and stuff, swim or whatever but there's snow

enough. I went up there two weeks ago today and I just give you an example. The snow was about

15 feet against the wall of the front of the house up to above the garage roof and so when I was

digging I felt a little, I don't know how to say it, I felt a little shock and I thought wow,

I've got this long COVID neuropathy and maybe that's but it was weird. So as I was chipping away

the snow to get close to the house, I finally after about an hour and a half you have to chip it

and then you have to blow it somewhere but the mountain is over it was over 15 feet high so you

couldn't, I had to have the, they show you what happened, I had to have the blower go straight up

in the air almost and then when I got near the bottom of the wall the first four feet it has a

a stone facing. All of a sudden the stones just, I exposed them and they just fell over in the

words they had been so frozen, snow on them for so long and the mortar had disintegrated and the

whole wall fell out almost on the ground and then I realized why I was feeling that way that the

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