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I think if there is a moment though it was really just getting to hike up in the mountains of Kurdistan is just one of the most beautiful places in the world up there and it also just struck me after we got done hiking we went to this kind of resort town it was really pretty like there were streams and like little restaurants and everybody was just very

friendly and I knew that that's just that I was probably one of the only Westerners up in the mountain that day.

You know, it felt special, but also it made me a little bit sad that I was one of the only Westerners because so many Westerners don't know that this is here.

You're listening to War College, a weekly podcast that brings you the stories from behind the front lines.

Here are your hosts. So welcome back to America.

Thank you.

Is it everything you thought, was it everything you dreamed it would be?

America?

Uh, no.

Um, my return is not.

How far, how long were you gone again?

Uh, about a month and a half.

And where all did you go DC Germany Iraq Syria how long were you in Iraq and Syria

Hold on let me think. I mean, a month because I that's what the visa was for and I overstate it by a day.

And you said, I think earlier you said, how many conflicts did you witness or were near?

Yeah, because there's kind of an interesting little, probably three.

I think you, didn't you say four last time I talked to?

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