Wilson, how ill are you?

I were quite ill, yeah. I thought it was a cold, and I went out to buy some Parasetamol. It's like five-minute's walk to the shop and got back and slept half an hour. So I think it's some kind of virus, but anyway, I will soldier it. Like Bert Troutman in 1996, I will soldier on. Yeah, you need to to stop referring to yourself as Bert Troutman, to be honest.

It feels like you have any virus and what Bert Tramman went through are not parallel.

Man does work with cold. That is the parallel we need.

Yeah, okay. But they're quite bad colds, all over with you?

My wife, Kate, was fine, like three weeks ago ago and then she spoke to two friends of hers

like a like a group call one in bristol one in edinburgh and they'd both been ill recently and the

next morning she woke up and she felt rotten and i was convinced for a while that it was like a

computer virus that she caught like it felt like it had been transmitted through WhatsApp.

And I don't know whether, I don't want to get all conspiratorial,

but I wonder whether that is the next phase.

We're going to start catching computer viruses,

so you might have a computer virus.

Welcome to Libero. This is our 10th episode, I think. And as you can see, we're already starting to feel the pace. Jonathan Wilson is joining me. He is not very well, so he would like

your sympathy and also your admiration for soldiering on. Hello, Jonathan. Hello, Rory. And I'm also joined by Tariq Panger of the New York Times,

who I think is in good health. At the moment, yes, but if this computer virus

is anything to go by me, might not be by the end of it. That's true. We're all taking a terrible

risk. I'm actually broadcasting wearing a full hazmat suit just in case.

Today we're going to be talking about the long tale of the early 2000s, the part of football

history that I think has now been kind of characterised as the Barclaysman era, but I'm not sure

whether that fully encapsulates it.

And then we're going to ask

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