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The Dispatch Podcast

Liberal Elegy | Roundtable

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.4 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 6 September 2024

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Reason Magazine editor-at-large Nick Gillespie joins Sarah, Steve, and Jonah to discuss whether conservatives (and libertarians) would be better off with a Trump or Kamala win in November. The Agenda: —If Republicans Want to Win, They Need Trump to Lose — Big —No small government parties —Trump and Harris’ “harmonic convergence” —To fight wokeness, vote Harris —The way forward for third parties —The need for a new consensus —Future of the two-party system Show Notes: —Yuval Levin on Advisory Opinions The Dispatch Podcast is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including members-only newsletters, bonus podcast episodes, and weekly livestreams—click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dispatch Podcast. I'm Sarah Isger and I've got Steve Hayes and Jonah Goldberg, sure. But we've got Nick Gillespie, the host of The Reason interview with Nick Gillespie and an editor at large at Reason. Nick.

0:23.0

Thank you so much for joining us this.

0:25.0

Nick, thank you so much for joining us this week.

0:32.0

Thank you. It's joining us this week.

0:35.8

Thank you. It's an honor and a privilege to be here. So last week, we talked about the intra never Trump fight going on.

0:42.3

And basically the question was,

0:45.0

if you believe that Donald Trump is unfit

0:48.0

to hold the presidency, what responsibility

0:50.8

do you have from there?

0:52.4

Do you have a responsibility to endorse Kamala Harris to help her win to do things

0:59.4

you know affirmatively to ensure that Donald Trump doesn't win the presidency.

1:04.4

I want to turn to the other question for this week, which is if you're a conservative,

1:12.0

what responsibilities do you have, or what are your best options as a conservative

1:18.9

given your two choices between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.

1:22.8

On the one hand, Jonathan Martin over at Politico

1:26.8

wrote a piece that is certainly making the rounds called

1:30.3

if Republicans want to win,

1:31.9

they need Trump to lose.

1:34.0

Big. I'll just read a few sections of this.

1:37.0

The best possible outcome in November for the future of the Republican Party

1:40.0

is for former President Donald Trump to lose and lose soundly.

1:43.2

GOP leaders won't tell you that on the record.

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