I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about the bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry and curse

the patriarchy. We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we

can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us

about love, sex and dating.

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about conscious on coupleings, you know, and Instagram

followings. That's right, we're doing bachelor news and gossip again. We're here with some

cool takes on the breakup of recent bachelor at Katie Thurston and Blake Moines, some

Dumois chatter of course and mildly spoilery consideration of the future bachelor or two.

You've been warned. This is not a completely spoiler free episode. And as always, we will

make sure to differentiate between things that have been like actually reported by a news

outlet and things that have just been wildly spread into the ether by Instagram gossip

accounts like Dumois. Yeah, Dumois just continues to cause chaos. That's its role. It is the

mischievous puck of the Instagram world and the celebrity world, I guess. That is why

we've all embraced it despite all the destruction. But let's start with something that is definitely

confirmed, which is that Katie Thurston and Blake Moines, they're long and illustrious

engagement has finally come to an end, not due to marriage, but due to them consciously

parting ways, mutually, amicably, through shared Instagram post. I mean, I honestly expected

them to last longer. Is that rude? Is that a rude thing to say? I mean, if you'd expected

them to last this long, I think that would have been a little bit rude. Like it hasn't

been very long. They're finale aired in August. I know. I was surprised. Once these couples

kind of come out of Bachelor World, I tend to root for them. You know what? The strongest

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