'Let's Get It On' ... in court (Update)
The Indicator from Planet Money
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🗓️ 28 December 2023
⏱️ 10 minutes
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Summary
When it comes to making art, what's the difference between inspiration and theft? Between artistic license and copyright infringement? That is the question at the heart of one of the biggest musical copyright cases in years that went to trial this past year.
Today on the show, did Ed Sheeran steal from Marvin Gaye's "Let's Get It On" in his hit single "Thinking Out Loud"? Law professor Jennifer Jenkins sits down at the piano to help us hear the differences and similarities between these two songs.
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| 0:00.0 | What's up, indicator listeners? This week we are showcasing some of our favorite |
| 0:04.5 | indicator episodes of the year and one of my faves was a show we did back in |
| 0:09.0 | April about a high-stakes legal battle over two famous pop songs. |
| 0:14.3 | Stick around for the end for a quick update and enjoy. |
| 0:18.3 | NPR. I've been really tried. Oh yeah, it's the indicator from Planet Money. I'm Adrian Ma. |
| 0:39.7 | And I'm Waylon Wong. We are listening to Let's Get It On, because this song is at the center of a big trial happening next week, |
| 0:47.7 | where the court has to decide what is the difference between musical inspiration and intellectual theft. |
| 0:55.0 | Let's Get It On was performed by Marvin Gay, as everybody knows. |
| 0:58.4 | But it was also co-written by a guy named Ed Townsend. |
| 1:02.1 | And Ed Townsend's heirs, who have the rights to the song |
| 1:04.7 | they've accused another musician of writing a song that copies let's get it on |
| 1:09.7 | and baby my heart could still fool us. |
| 1:15.0 | Hard at 23. |
| 1:17.0 | Thinking out loud by the British musician Ed Sheerin. |
| 1:20.0 | Oh, Ed V. Ed. That's right, we got a case of v Ed. Ed. |
| 1:23.0 | That's right, we got a case of two Eds here. |
| 1:26.0 | But this case is about a lot more than money. |
| 1:29.0 | Today on the show, we'll talk with a music copyright expert who explains why this case should matter to musicians |
| 1:34.7 | and music lovers everywhere, and why the outcomes of these disputes are so hard to predict. |
| 1:41.8 | Support for this podcast and the following message come from Dignity Memorial. |
| 1:47.0 | When your celebration of life is prepaid today, your family is protected tomorrow. |
| 1:52.0 | Planning ahead is truly one of the best gifts you can give your family. |
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