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The Indicator from Planet Money

Chasing the American Dream at Outback Steakhouse (Classic)

The Indicator from Planet Money

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4.79.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2023

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

How often do you hang out with people in a different socioeconomic bracket than you? And where do you meet and congregate? Economist Maxim Massenkoff, and his co-author Nathan Wilmers, looked at cell phone location data to figure out where people with vastly different incomes commune together. Today on the show, Maxim discusses his research, and Darian and Alexi head to a restaurant to try and witness some of this class mixing in action.

Related Episode: The Secret to Upward Mobility: Friends

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0:00.0

Hello indicator listeners, it's Darren Woods here and we are continuing playing our favorite indicator episodes of the year.

0:06.0

This is a particularly special one for me as we went out into the world to see where Americans socialize.

0:13.6

Enjoy the show.

0:15.4

NPR. Darian Woods. Woods.

0:26.0

Darian Woods.

0:27.0

Alexi Horowitz Garzy.

0:28.0

It's good to see you here.

0:30.0

Fancy seeing you here outside a gigantic strip mall. Like decently fancy strip mall out in

0:35.5

bayside Queens. We've got a we got some meme stock in the distance. I see an

0:40.0

AMC theater. We have five guys, we have I-HOP, we have Home Goods, we have Verizon, we have

0:44.5

J-Kru, we have Starbucks, we have Panera Bread. We are here with a higher cause in mind.

0:51.6

We have a goal to look for America. We're in search of America.

0:55.8

We're on kind of a socioeconomic safari this evening.

0:58.8

This is the indicator from Planet Money. I'm Darren Woods.

1:02.2

And I'm Alexi Horwitz Gazzi from over at Planet Money.

1:05.1

You hear a lot these days about this super important ingredient

1:08.5

for helping people move up the economic ladder.

1:11.6

And that idea is economic mixing when the rich and the

1:14.9

poor and the middle come together to make friends. But is this real and can we

1:19.9

see it happening out there in the world in the economic savanna exactly so today on the

1:24.9

show where do Americans actually come together to make pals across socioeconomic

1:30.3

lines we're going to get out into the field after the break.

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