Let Me Be Frank

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

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🗓️ 2 November 2023

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Is Joe Biden a secret genius? Today’s Remnant guest—Atlantic staff writer Franklin Foer—wouldn’t quite go that far, but he does believe that the president is much more politically adept than you might think. Foer developed a newfound respect for the commander in chief while writing his new book, The Last Politician: Inside Joe Biden’s White House and the Struggle for America’s Future, and he joins Jonah to explain why. Listeners are also encouraged to tune in to hear Jonah and Frank yearnfully reflect on their misspent youth and the joys of cross-partisan lunches. Show Notes: - Frank’s page at The Atlantic - Frank’s new book, The Last Politician -Jonah: “Advice for Biden: Be Like Ike” -Nate Cohn: “Why Less Engaged Voters Are Biden’s Biggest Problem” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Can I please have your attention?
0:10.0	Please are listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg, host of the
0:29.9	Remnant Podcasts, brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media. Very excited about today's guest.
0:34.9	This is a real, I mean, he's got a book and he's this big fancy pants guy, wears belts at the Atlantic and all that.
0:41.9	But he's one of these guys who I've known for, I hate to say it, I think it's coming up on 30 years now in the early day.
0:53.9	Well, we'll get to how that's a fact in a second, but first let me introduce him, I suppose I've got to do that.
0:58.9	Franklin Four is a former editor of the New Republic. He's a national correspondent for the Atlantic and he's a fellow at the New America Foundation.
1:08.9	I'm actually not a fellow at the New America Foundation. That's some sort of vestigial piece of the internet that you've consumed.
1:17.9	I apologize, the bio I have is from your, the Penguin Random House Speaker's Bureau.
1:24.9	For years, like 20 years after, 15 years after I did it, I was still commonly introduced as a occasional co-host of Crossfire.
1:34.9	It was particularly funny since the show had been canceled for like seven years.
1:38.9	But this is Gold, so we're just keeping it all in.
1:41.9	He is not at the New America Foundation, but he is at the Atlantic.
1:46.9	And as you author of many books, the latest of which is the last politician inside Joe Biden's White House and the struggle for America's future.
1:56.9	Franklin Four, welcome to the room.
1:58.9	So good to be here.
2:00.9	So for listeners, I mentioned this when Will Salatin's been on here before he went to the bulwark and he was sort of the house boy of this podcast.
2:10.9	Except that he's Jewish, but I know, but I just mean to like, I'm the, for a while, I was like the house boy at NPR.
2:15.9	I was like the conservative they brought on. And so he was like the liberal guy who get into arguments with.
2:19.9	And you Dave plots, Will Salatin, this guy, Seth Stevenson, and, and a rotating cast of like Michael Kinsley and those guys we didn't really have lunch with.
2:33.9	But the younger people like you me, we shared offices on the 12th floor of the AI building.
2:41.9	You had nothing to do with AI at the time. I kind of had nothing to do with it. I was a television producer, but complicated.
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