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The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck Podcast

Lessons on Money, Success, and Fulfillment You Need to Hear (ft. Lewis Howes)

The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck Podcast

Mark Manson

Self-improvement, Education

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Lewis Howes is one of the most successful podcasters of all time—12 years, nearly 1,800 episodes, and countless interviews with world-class performers. But what’s even more interesting is how his definition of success has evolved over the years. In this conversation, Lewis opens up about shifting from a hyper-competitive, “be number one” mentality to a more collaborative, impact-driven approach.


We also dive into emotional regulation, the surprising ways our relationship with money affects our lives, and why most people either idolize or demonize wealth. Oh, and Lewis casually mentions he’s training to compete in the Olympics in his 40s. No big deal. This episode is packed with insights on what it really means to live a fulfilling, abundant life—without losing your mind in the process.


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Lewis's new book, Make Money Easy: https://www.amazon.com/Make-Money-Easy-Financial-Freedom/dp/1401993931


Lewis's podcast, The School of Greatness: https://lewishowes.com/sogpodcast/


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Theme music: Icarus Lives by Periphery, used with permission from Periphery.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Louis Howes.

0:01.3

Welcome to the show, man.

0:02.8

Thanks for having me.

0:03.5

Dude.

0:04.7

A podcasting legend.

0:06.6

You know, 12 years.

0:08.8

Every week for 12 years, I've done a podcast.

0:10.7

Every week?

0:11.6

I haven't recorded every week, but I've posted every week for 12 years.

0:14.9

How many episodes now?

0:17.2

I, 1700 or 1,800 somewhere out there.

0:19.2

Yeah, dude.

0:19.8

I know.

0:20.7

I'm like, sleepy sleepy just hearing that number

0:22.8

i'm like i need a vacation just from just from what you just said a blog post have you

0:27.2

written yeah yeah i mean hundreds but but it's it's cool having you here you've been

0:34.2

people don't know this behind the scenes you've been a huge supporter of mine starting this show.

0:40.4

I appreciate, like, you reached out.

0:42.8

You were super kind, very helpful.

0:44.7

Yeah, man.

0:45.1

And I really appreciate that.

0:46.3

My pleasure, man.

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