How to Change Your Mind Without Losing Yourself

The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck Podcast

Mark Manson

Self-improvement, Education

4.8 • 3.8K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Drew and I dive into some of the biggest beliefs we’ve shifted over the years—and what it actually looks like to change your mind.

We talk about Drew’s evolving views on religion, why I’m way less convinced that people are as changeable as we like to believe, and why I think trauma might be getting a little too much airtime in the self-help world.

We also get into the loneliness epidemic, the quiet power of community, and why so much of “personal growth” isn’t about becoming someone new—it’s about learning to work with who you already are.

Leave a comment below about what you’ve changed your mind about—and enjoy.

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Chapters

00:00 Intro: What we've changed our minds about

02:59 Religion

07:40 Where does belief change start?

17:08 Does Mark stand by his books?

18:06 Why change is so hard

30:27 Trauma doesn't determine destiny

37:52 Cautious optimism

Theme song: Icarus Lives by Periphery , used with permission from Periphery.

Transcript

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0:00.0	Drew, I noticed something very exciting.
0:02.2	Okay.
0:03.2	Today, this is our 72nd episode.
0:06.2	Oh. No, I probably should know that, but no, I did not.
0:09.6	You know how I know that?
0:10.8	How do you know it?
0:11.8	I opened up the Notion database and counted how many episodes there were in it.
0:16.6	Okay.
0:17.6	So I probably should know this.
0:20.1	I have two thoughts.
0:21.2	One is that's a lot of episodes.
0:24.1	It doesn't feel like that many episodes.
0:26.2	It feels like way fewer than that.
0:28.2	That's my first thought.
0:29.4	And then my second thought is when I think about some of the podcasts that have like
0:33.7	1,500 episodes or 2,000 episodes.
0:36.2	Right.
0:37.0	And I'm like, what the fuck?
0:39.5	Yeah.
0:40.1	How do you guys do that?
0:41.1	Yeah.
0:41.9	That's a lot of work.
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