Welcome to the Crazy Love Podcast.

There is a sacredness in the way that God meets us and speaks to us when we experience

the loss of a loved one.

In today's episode, Francis Chan concludes his conversation with his good friend Ryan

Takasugi as they reflect together on the lessons learned from the Lord in a season of deep

sadness and grief.

And I just want people free.

I want complete freedom myself.

I want everyone to see this good news of God's love is not like this approval that

you've been seeking from so many people and probably from God himself.

Yeah.

That's good.

I love that you use the words good news because obviously when we really throw it around

but we use the word gospel a lot.

And I think a lot of people come in with baggage about just what is the gospel.

And some people like that baggage is not as bad baggage.

It's just incomplete.

And so I know how to explain the gospel to somebody else.

So it's very intellectual or of course there are people who have experienced the gospel

being shouted at them and so it becomes this emotional thing.

And so as that word has been laden with many different things and sort of like culturally

sort of shifted into different places as well that fundamental underlying reality that

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