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Lessons From the Cold War / Penny M. Von Eschen

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🗓️ 23 August 2022

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Penny M. Von Eschen is author of the new book, “Paradoxes of Nostalgia: Cold War Triumphalism and Global Disorder since 1989.” Penny is the William R. Kenan Jr. Professor of American Studies and Professor of History at the University of Virginia and author of, “Satchmo Blows Up the World: Jazz Ambassadors Play the Cold War,” and “Race against Empire: Black Americans and Anticolonialism, 1937–1957.” We speak with Penny about the enduring legacy of the Cold War in international politics.

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Make it.

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Make a jack! The This is hell.

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Behind every great fortune lies a great crime because this is hell the Cold War ended because American capitalism and a triumphant victory defeated Soviet communism. Presidents Reagan and Bush stood up to totalitarianism,

0:56.2

and it was defeated.

0:57.5

In June 1987, President Reagan gave a speech

1:00.4

at the Berlin Wall where he famously said, Mr Gorbachev tear down this wall.

1:06.0

By November 1989, what, that's like 16 or two years later, the Berlin Wall that separated East Germans from West,

1:14.8

communism from capitalism, was gone, and the former communists could not wait to

1:20.3

finally breathe the fresh air of free markets.

1:25.0

Reagan and Bush succeeded because, we are told by the media and political leaders,

1:29.5

the U.S. increased military spending to such a degree that the Soviets could

1:34.4

simply not keep up and their economy was destroyed in their attempt in doing so.

1:39.7

But the reality is far different from what then presidential nominee George H W Bush told

1:46.8

attendees at the 1988 Republican National Convention there as our guest today reminds us

1:53.0

then Vice President Bush told the crowd that U.S.

1:56.7

perseverance and military might not Soviet reforms diplomacy and negotiation

2:01.7

made all the difference. Years of talks were diplomacy and

2:05.0

in negotiation made all the difference. Years of talks were negated.

2:06.0

The progress Michael Gorbachev had made was erased.

2:09.0

And in doing so, again citing our guest,

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quote, unlike Germany, the Soviet Union in South Africa,

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