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Deadline: White House

“Less impulse control than a hunting dog”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

News, Ms Now, The White House, Versant, Daily News, Government, Politics, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Nicolle Wallace

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 October 2023

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace discusses a raucous day in the courtroom holding the ex-president’s civil fraud trial as he is fined $10,000, updates on one of his closest allies flipping on him in Special Counsel Jack Smith’s election investigation, a brand new speaker of the House who led the charge there to overturn the 2020 election, a new book revealing Sen. Mitt Romney’s real feelings about his GOP colleagues, an update on the ongoing hostage situation in Gaza, and more. Joined by: Lisa Rubin, Andrew Weissmann, Neal Katyal, Russ Buettner, Ali Vitali, Charlie Sykes, Stuart Stevens, Glenn Thrush, McKay Coppins, and Keir Simmons.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. It's 4 o'clock in New York, the ex-president today on the verge of snatching

0:12.8

jail time from the jaws of civil liability. Donald Trump taking the stand today in his

0:17.8

civil fraud trial in New York after being ordered by the judge to testify about comments

0:23.0

he made regarding a court clerk. Now, you all know this. We don't normally err his remarks

0:29.0

for fear of amplifying them, particularly when they are so clearly tied to threats of

0:33.3

violence and intimidation. But we're going to play them for you here right now because

0:37.4

they led to near immediate legal liability for the ex-president.

0:40.9

This judge will, because this judge is very partisan judge, with a person who's very

0:47.6

partisan sitting alongside him, perhaps even much more partisan than he is.

0:53.9

Now, I'm going to stand for just one minute after saying that. Trump claimed that

0:58.6

he wasn't talking about the person sitting next to the judge. He was actually talking about

1:02.2

Michael Cohen, but the time is in the middle of his second day of testimony, not the clerk.

1:09.1

Judging Goron was not buying it, not for nanosecond. And he swiftly fined Donald Trump $10,000

1:14.6

and rebuked Trump. The judge said this, quote, it is easy for the public or anyone to know who that is.

1:20.3

I'm very protective of my staff and I believe I should be. I don't want anybody killed end quote.

1:28.1

Whew, this is the second time, unless in a week, that Donald Trump has been fine for violating

1:32.6

a gag order put in place by Judging Goron, who also warned Trump this quote, don't do it again

1:39.4

or it will be worse. Now, for his part, Michael Cohen did resume testifying, but Trump didn't stick

1:45.6

around to hear him finish. The disgraced ex-president storming out of the courtroom,

1:51.0

the secret service agents left to chase after him, just after Judging Goron denied a motion

1:56.0

from one of his attorneys. Manufactured mayhem in the courthouse on the part of Donald J. Trump

2:01.2

is where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends. Former top official

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