Hello and welcome. My name's Jay Brown. This is Yoga Talks podcast. Thank you so much for listening.

Today is a big day for the podcast.

My friend Leslie Kamenov is here.

And I consider him to be a heavy hitter in the sense that this podcast has a lot to do with

the inside track of being a yoga teacher and the industry.

And if there's anybody who's been involved in that conversation, it's Leslie.

In fact, Leslie's been involved in that conversation since it started.

So it was really a pleasure to sit down with him, to pick his brain about the earlier times,

times before I got into the yoga world, and to hear how those early seeds have borne their fruits and played out

and continue to play out. We talk about a range of pressing issues, the Yoga Alliance,

the International Association of Yoga Therapists. I get into, I just ask him a whole bunch

of personal questions I've always been wanting to ask him.

We talk about a whole bunch of stuff.

It's a long conversation.

We are going to get straight to it.

Before we do, I want to mention that I think it's also a good warm up or precursor to next week.

We're going to listen to Andrew Tanner from the Yoga

Alliance. I've got a blog post that I've written, and I'm going to put out the blog post and

the podcast together. I think they go nicely, and that's on the new yoga therapy terminology

policy. I finally got my mind around that and figured out what I wanted to say. I'm going

to offer that to you next week. One other thing I want to say is thank you to all of you who've been

reaching out to me again. I always have been saying this every time, but I feel compelled because I

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