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🗓️ 19 June 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Mark Carruthers discusses Irish unity with Leo Varadkar and how the former Taoiseach hopes to plan, persuade and pay for it.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to this bonus episode of Radlions. |
0:03.1 | In this edition, we're bringing you the full extended interview |
0:06.1 | with the former Taoiseach Leo Varadkar in Dublin. |
0:11.0 | Right, so we're happy... |
0:12.2 | You happy to go? Yeah? |
0:13.6 | Okay. |
0:14.3 | So we're happy for level, and that's us now recording. |
0:20.1 | I'm just thinking back to September 2023 when you were Taoiseach and you said you believed at that point Ireland was on the path to unification and there'd be a United Ireland you believed in your lifetime. Where do you think Ireland is on that path as of today? I don't think a United Ireland is inevitable. |
0:39.3 | I think it's something that we have to work towards. |
0:42.2 | But I think there are a lot of factors that would suggest that we're on that trajectory, |
0:47.3 | particularly demographic factors, particularly polling, even the most recent number is showing |
0:51.3 | that a very clear majority of younger people in Northern Ireland |
0:54.2 | want there to be a new and united Ireland and I think that will carry true and that's why |
1:00.0 | I think it's something that we should plan for and I think it's something that shouldn't just be an |
1:04.1 | aspiration it's something that should be an objective of the Irish government and of Irish |
1:08.4 | society. So not inevitable but do you think in your heart of hearts it is a possibility there could be a United Ireland in your lifetime? |
1:17.6 | Yes, but I don't think it'll just happen by osmosis or by accident. |
1:23.6 | I think it has to be worked towards. I think those of us who believe in it have a duty to make the case for it and also I think it has to be worked towards. I think those of us who believe in it have a duty to make the case for it. |
1:30.3 | And also I think we need to make sure that when the question is put to the people north and south on this matter, |
1:37.3 | that we've taught through all of the hard questions they may ask us. |
1:41.3 | And I've seen a few times referendums pass and a few times referendums fail. |
1:46.8 | And often they fail because we weren't able to answer properly the questions that the public |
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