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Hey, it's Rachel. This week, we're going way back into the Wildcard Archives to bring you one of my favorite episodes with Lena Waith.

Lena was one of the first guests that I wanted to bring on when we launched the show.

She is a creative powerhouse who doesn't just have big ambitions.

She's got massive amounts of talent and curiosity and compassion.

I loved talking with Lena Waith, and I hope you enjoy listening to the conversation.

What makes you irrationally defensive?

Irrational defensive?

Oh my gosh.

I'm Rachel Martin, and this is Wildcard.

The game where cards control the conversation.

Each week, my guest answers questions about their life.

Questions pulled from a deck of cards.

They're allowed to skip one question and to flip one back on me.

My guest this week is actress and producer Lena Waithe. It's my least favorite thing as getting something wrong.

And that can be in many ways. You know, it'd be a relationship, you know, some trivia.

You know what I mean?

I love that those were in the same breath.

Lena Waith knows what she wants.

And what she wants is for people to look outside of their own lives to try and understand other people and the choices that they make.

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