Welcome to the Delin pod with me, Delin pod. And I know I always say I'm special guest.

But look who I've got. I've got Leilani Dowding. Leilani, welcome to the Delin pod.

Thank you very much for having me on. No, it's a delight. I'm really famous for doing my

very careful research on my podcast guests. And I know all about you. I know that you are on

Twitter a lot posing, draping yourself attractively over a horse, frequently.

Just today, that was just today, I was just in one of those moves where I'm like, I'm sick of

seeing all these trans, what are they? They're women that think they're men, trans men that are now

allowed to be top. So I was just like, right, I'm doing it. I'm going to drape myself on a horse,

like the woman did on the having client ever, but she's a man.

Yeah, but you do more than that, Leilani. I've seen you actually do stuff like on a kind of

tractor device, sort of scuffing up the, what are they called?

Yeah, I haven't bought myself a gator yet. I've moved to a farm. I strong-armed my fiancee

into getting a farm. So I could have my horses at home in case of any, you know, crazy disasters

that we might go into. And I don't know really what I'm doing if I'm honest. I bought myself a

harrow, harrow my arena. I didn't find myself anything to pull it with. So I borrowed a friend's

gator. I was like, harrowing around this arena, trying to get the surface nice. So excuse the

background. I'm kneeling on my floor because I've literally got no furniture either in here yet.

Right, but I'm glad you're into horses. And because I'm into horses as well, although I think we

should keep the horse talk fairly to a minimum because it's weird. Not everyone is into horses.

They probably, in fact, do you know what? There are people out there in the world who find

horses. Can you believe it? Really boring. I feel weird. And I'm banned. I'm banned from speaking

about horses in front of him at the moment. I've done it too much. So forcing to buy a farm. So

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