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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

Legalizing the trip: One ‘shroom advocate’s playbook

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

News, Government, Politics

4.01.6K Ratings

🗓️ 29 July 2022

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Here’s something about Washington, D.C. that even a lot of people who live here don’t know: Psychedelic mushrooms are basically legal. In 2020 voters approved a ballot initiative that made growing, purchasing, and distributing mushrooms the lowest law enforcement priority for D.C. police. Cities and states are way ahead of the federal government. There are movements in more than two dozen states to either study, decriminalize, or outright legalize mushrooms and other psychedelics. It’s happening in blue states like California, New York and Vermont, as well as in red states like Utah, Kansas, and Florida. Cities such as Ann Arbor, Oakland, Seattle, and Denver, have, like D.C., all decriminalized mushrooms. The epicenter of this movement, as was the case with cannabis legalization, is Colorado. In November, voters will decide whether to approve the Natural Medicine Health Act of 2022, which would create state-regulated “healing centers” where anyone over 21 could receive psilocybin-assisted therapy. In this week’s episode, Ryan traveled to Littlejohn, Colorado and sat down with Veronica Lightning Horse Perez, the co-leader of the Colorado mushroom campaign. They talked about how psychedelics helped treat her mental health issues, what it’s like to undergo psychedelic therapy with mushrooms and ayahuasca, and her journey to becoming the unlikely political activist at the forefront of mushroom legalization.   Ryan Lizza is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.Veronica Lightning Horse Perez is co-organizer of Natural Health Colorado.Afra Abdullah is an associate producer for POLITICO audio.Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio.Brook Hayes is a senior editor for POLITICO audio.Adam Allington is senior producer for POLITICO audio.Jenny Ament is executive producer for POLITICO audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Here's something about Washington DC that even a lot of people who live here don't know.

0:06.6

Psychedelic mushrooms are basically legal here.

0:10.4

Back in 2020, voters approved a ballot initiative that made growing, purchasing, and distributing

0:16.7

ethnogenic plant and fungi among the lowest enforcement priorities for DC cops.

0:23.1

How easy is it to get mushrooms in the nation's capital?

0:26.1

Recently I decided to find out.

0:28.2

I sent a text to a number I found online, I was then asked for my address and driver's

0:33.1

license, and what strains of mushrooms I wanted, penis envy, and golden teachers are probably

0:39.3

our most ordered, a friendly person on the other side of the line texted back.

0:44.8

An hour later, a car showed up outside my door with a bag of both strains.

0:49.6

I'm Ryan Liza, and this is Playbook Deep Dive.

0:57.1

I started hearing a lot about mushrooms and other psychedelics during quarantine in

1:02.0

DC.

1:03.0

Suddenly, journalist friends at the New York Times, The Washington Post, NBC News, and

1:08.4

Politico had become evangelists for the latest trend popular in Silicon Valley, microdosing

1:14.7

mushrooms.

1:16.9

A lot of this interest was sparked by Michael Pollan's popular 2018 book How to Change

1:21.6

Your Mind, What the New Science of Psychedelics teaches us about consciousness, dying, addiction,

1:27.6

depression, and transcendence.

1:30.2

That book has now been turned into a popular show on Netflix.

1:34.6

In other circles, Joe Rogan's podcasts about mushrooms created a boom in interest.

1:41.6

One of my friends started treating their depression with psychedelic-assisted therapy and

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