Legal Leviathan – Susan Fahringer, Partner, Perkins Coie – A Practical Discussion of the Dizzying Array of Laws in the Artificial Intelligence Industry
Finding Genius Podcast
Richard Jacobs
4.4 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 3 July 2018
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
Susan Fahringer, a partner at Perkins Coie (perkinscoie.com), an international law firm specializing in corporate, commercial litigation, intellectual property, and regulatory legal advice, gives an overview of the current and coming legal issues regarding AI. The legal issues surrounding AI (artificial intelligence) are poised to be some of the most critical and pertinent areas of concern facing many companies and persons involved in the rapidly growing technology arena.
Fahringer informs that biometrics legislation; algorithmic discrimination, which pertains to employers' use of AI to discriminate in hiring practices; privacy issues; product liability issues; and anti-trust issues will be a few of the many legal areas of concern in the expanding AI space. Specifically, in regard to biometrics, questions arise regarding personal data and what those who collect it are actually allowed to do with it. While biometrics can be useful on many fronts, Fahringer states that there should certainly be some guardrails established regarding its collection and use.
Fahringer discusses the problems that employers could face legally if their machine learning algorithms are biased. For example, if an employer creates an algorithm to search for potential candidates to interview and subsequently hire, the algorithm needs to be unbiased in every way such that it does not exclude or discriminate against people based on inherent flaws in the algorithm. Race is an obvious area where bias concerns could arise, and employers should take steps to ensure that their algorithms do no use race as a determinant in any way. But another area that may not be as obvious to employers is their use of zip codes, for an algorithm that discriminates due to a particular zip code, whether purposefully or inadvertently, may also be in violation of anti-discrimination laws.
Fahringer discusses the many areas of potential legal impediments and problems that exist within the current GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation). She outlines the importance of balance within the areas that concern privacy, balance that allows for expanded innovation but still protects the privacy of the individual. Fahringer expects that it will take five to ten years to refine the various laws that exist currently regarding AI, as the field and the laws that surround it are constantly evolving. Fahringer states that disclosures, privacy and data security, product liability, risk, and employment issues will all be areas of increasing concern for manufacturers, consumers, and private individuals alike.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Almost Here, Around the Corner of Future Technology Podcasts with Richard Jacobs. |
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| 0:25.0 | Hello this is Richard Jacobs with the Future Tech Podcast and also the |
| 0:31.5 | Secrets of Attorney Marketing podcast and say I have |
| 0:34.4 | Susan Farringer she's a partner at Perkins Coe top rated law firm and we're gonna be |
| 0:39.0 | talking about AI and the legal implications of it. So Susan, how you doing? |
| 0:43.4 | I'm doing well, thanks. |
| 0:44.4 | How are you, Richard? |
| 0:45.4 | Good, yeah, thanks for coming. |
| 0:46.4 | Yeah, usually when, you know, whenever we talk about tech, it's always the tech side of it, |
| 0:50.6 | not the legal side of it. |
| 0:51.8 | So, you know, in regards to AI, what are some of the |
| 0:57.0 | ones that you think will be coming in the next few years? |
| 1:00.0 | I guess I would say the current legal issues fall into a couple of categories. |
| 1:05.0 | One of the areas that's sort of hot right now is biometrics. |
| 1:08.9 | Number of states have adopted laws or have pending legislations in that area. |
| 1:15.0 | There are also issues around, I would call it, |
| 1:18.0 | algorithmic discrimination, where, you know, |
| 1:21.0 | a lot of employers are using AI in connection with their hiring decisions or |
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