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The Beat with Ari Melber

Legal Experts Questioning New Trump DOJ Move on Epstein Material

The Beat with Ari Melber

MSNBC

Government, Daily News, Politics, News

4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

As the Jeffrey Epstein scandal continues to engulf the Trump administration, MSNBC's Jason Johnson reports on the latest developments.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Beat. I'm Jason Johnson and for Ari Melburgh. We begin with the Trump White House

0:05.2

getting skewered on the Epstein scandal. Today, a new filing from Trump's beleaguered DOJ that is

0:11.1

already giving rise to suspicion and criticism. Plus, new legal action from a leading watchdog group

0:17.8

and yet another warning from a Trump ally about the political peril of the current scandal.

0:23.8

As a new republic reports today on Epstein, even Maga Whirl can smell that Trump is hiding something.

0:30.9

In a new filing this afternoon, the Department of Justice is pushing forward on request to unseal grand jury material.

0:36.8

But legal observers say it looks like theater and a barely concealed attempt to appear

0:42.3

interested in transparency while pursuing information most experts believe won't contain

0:47.7

any new revelations.

0:49.6

New details today on Trump's desperate attempt to quell political blowback.

0:53.7

The White House reportedly

0:54.5

quote, asking podcaster Joe Rogan to help ease the uproar over the Epstein files.

1:02.0

Look, Rogan has been a vocal critic of the administration's handling of the Epstein files. The other

1:06.7

problem for Trump concerns Epstein accomplice Galane Maxwell. Trump has dangled a pardon for her,

1:12.0

which critics say looks like a blatant attempt to elicit friendly testimony from her. Today,

1:17.6

Trump's former press secretary, Sean Spicer, warns all of this could backfire spectacularly.

1:24.7

What do you think the reaction would be if Donald Trump pardoned Maxwell?

1:28.2

I actually think about this differently.

1:30.2

I would say he would be under the impression that he was going to be able to say that they got something from her further information.

1:38.7

I think if anyone who sells him on this is lying to him.

1:42.9

My point, and that's why you're like, what is his reaction

1:45.6

going to be? I think this is very akin to Comey, right? When he fired Comey, he is told, oh, if you fire

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