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The Beat with Ari Melber

In Scathing Ruling, Judge Denies Trump DOJ in Epstein Case

The Beat with Ari Melber

MSNBC

Government, Daily News, Politics, News

4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

MSNBC’s Jason Johnson reports on how President Trump’s latest effort to dodge accountability for the Epstein files has blown up in federal court.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the beat. I'm Jason Johnson and for Ari Melburgh. We begin with new heat on Donald Trump

0:06.5

amend the Epstein Upwar, as his latest attempt to slide, slide, sliply slide away from any accountability

0:12.1

blows up in federal court. Today, in a scathing ruling, a judge essentially accusing Trump's

0:18.3

DOJ of trying to fool the public with, quote, the illusion

0:21.8

of transparency. Hours later, in a sign of how this is absolutely dogging Donald Trump,

0:27.9

reporters are pressing him about that ruling. It happened during his press conference at

0:32.2

the White House. Thank you all. Thank you, Overn.

0:46.9

Thank you. I Thank you, Overn. Did you hear that? Did you hear that?

0:48.3

Did you hear that?

0:50.1

Today's ruling concerned the DOJ's request to unseal grand jury material from probes into Epstein and his accomplice Glane Maxwell.

0:58.8

For weeks, legal experts have said this is a red herring, arguing most of the information is already known and likely to shed very little light on the situation.

1:08.0

Today, the federal judge who has seen the material echoing those criticisms

1:11.7

and going even further, calling out and rebuking the Trump DOJ. Quote, the DOJ's entire premise

1:18.7

that the Maxwell grand jury materials would bring to light meaningful new information about Epstein

1:24.8

and Maxwell's crimes or the government's investigation into them

1:28.9

is demonstrably false.

1:31.0

And in quote, a member of the public appreciating that the Maxwell grand jury materials

1:36.7

do not contribute anything to public knowledge might conclude that the government's motion

1:42.4

for their unsealing was aimed not at transparency,

1:45.7

but at diversion, and not at the full disclosure, but the illusion of such.

1:52.1

It's unclear whether the DOJ will appeal as time goes by. This is certainly getting weirder.

1:58.2

Trump veered from calling it a, quote, hoax to saying, now the

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