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Welcome back to another episode of the Vertical Podcast.

Glad you could join me today.

And we've got a fun show for you.

Lee Jenkins, my former colleague over at Sports Illustrate, does a tremendous job covering the NBA for sI and sI.com.

He joins me here in studio, and we go through the stuff going on in Cleveland, the drama with LeBron and Kyrie Irving.

We examine the futures of both, and we take a deep dive into Oklahoma City and the relationship between Russell Westbrook and

Paul George this season and what it could mean, not just for the Thunder, but for small

markets down the road.

So stick around for that.

Great podcast coming up.

Here's my conversation with S.I's Lee Jenkins.

Join me this week, a guy you can read the pages of Sports Illustrated, s.com.

He's everywhere on TV.

Nowadays, he's doing things that I thought I had domain over in the sports media's landscape,

and he's doing it better than me right now.

And he has been Fox Sports One everywhere you look.

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