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The Esau McCaulley Podcast

Lecrae's having *another* moment

The Esau McCaulley Podcast

Esau McCaulley

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

5.01.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2024

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Esau McCaulley sits down with Grammy-winning artist Lecrae for a candid conversation about his career, faith, and the personal challenges of living in the public eye. Reflecting on how his music has evolved over the years, Lecrae opens up about the journey that has shaped him both spiritually and professionally. The two discuss everything from Kendrick Lamar's and Simone Biles' unexpected shoutout to navigating criticism from fans and the church alike. Lecrae also delves into the pressures of creating music while wrestling with faith in a secular world and how he now sees himself as a "hybrid" between two cultures.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Passion in my pocket so my pennies should be.

0:10.0

What they selling is cheap so I'm buying that this freedom is free.

0:13.0

I've been becoming me.

0:15.0

See when Jesus taking the lead.

0:16.0

With purpose I bleed and rise like going under the heat.

0:19.0

Defeat is a never.

0:20.0

You can't reattach with a sever. What's bringing you pleasure can tell you where you stacking your

0:24.3

treasure when storm is your weather no that it gets worse for it's better welcome to the east

0:29.1

summer collie podcast I guess today needs no introduction it is multiple time Grammy

0:34.7

award winner how many Grammys do you got just four nothing just four just four multiple time Grammy Award winner. How many Grammys do you got? Just four. Just four. Multiple

0:39.7

time Grammy winner. Um, content creator, business owner of the Craig. Welcome to the podcast.

0:45.1

Thanks for having me, man. Glad to be here. So normally we open up the podcast with this game that we like to play

0:50.7

called Are You Watched? And the whole point is that people know about popular culture

0:54.7

and whether or not they can actually engage what they're talking about.

0:57.5

But the problem is, I googled this.

0:59.4

Me and you were born 19 days apart.

1:04.6

And just about any kind of pop culture reference I could think of,

1:08.2

you were probably going to know.

1:10.0

And so I said, we're going to do this a little bit different. We're going to see if LaCray actually knows about LaCray. So I had actually given, I had to give it Mike. Mike, are you visible on the podcast? Like, say hello, Mike. Hi, everyone. It's Mike. I gave Mike a simple job. I said, Mike, I want you to get me some Lecrae lyrics and we're going to see if Lecrae can tell me where it comes from and all of this. He just didn't do a good job better. He's fired. You're no longer able to choose any lyrics at all. What I've done is chosen four lyrics that actually think represents different errors of your discography.

1:48.0

And I want to see if A, you can name the song, you probably should be able to do this.

1:52.0

And B, if you can remember where you were mentally when you wrote, do you think you'll be able to do it?

1:53.0

First of all, I don't even remember my lyrics on stage.

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