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Cults, Culture & Coercion with Dr. Steve Hassan

Leaving the “Truman Show” of Scientology – with Tory Christman

Cults, Culture & Coercion with Dr. Steve Hassan

Dr. Steven Hassan

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education

4.7843 Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Interested in Scientology? Ever watch the “Truman Show” movie with Jim Carrey? Check out this long overdue interview with my longtime friend, the charming and resilient Tory “Magoo” Christman. Tory, was in Scientology for thirty years, had reached the uppermost levels of Hubbard’s “Bridge to Total Freedom,” specifically OT7 (OT8 is the highest) and was involved with John Travolta directly from the beginning of the Celebrity Centre. Ever since exiting after being manipulated by officials to disrupt the Internet group (at the beginning of the internet), ever since realizing the facts about the group, Tory has been devoting her time and energy to helping people get informed- and assisting people when they want to leave. Tory has helped me with clients and has a very active YouTube channel and still does street outreach. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Dr. Steve Hassan with another episode of cults, culture, and coercion.

0:09.0

And I have with me a very special old friend and colleague, a survivor of Scientology,

0:17.3

Tori Christman with me today.

0:20.1

Tori and I go back decades, literally, and she's helped me on cases.

0:27.7

We've hung out together, done all kinds of fun projects together, but I want, I said to Tori,

0:34.9

we've done interviews years ago, but I want to do a fresh one with you today

0:40.0

with my larger podcast audience and network.

0:44.9

So I'll just start by saying you got recruited into Scientology when you were 22.

0:53.2

Yes.

0:53.7

Is that right?

0:54.9

No, I didn't get recruited in.

0:57.4

No.

0:58.0

So we'll jump into your story, but let me just say to keep people listening, you were in 30 years, and you went up the bridge, the so-called bridge to total freedom, which is the total freedom

1:13.4

trap, according to my friend John Atec. You went to OT7 of OT8 twice, if I remember correctly.

1:24.4

And you got out after a whole the internet period started we'll let you tell the story

1:33.6

of what Scientology asked you to do there and amongst many of your stories you helped

1:40.3

be involved with John Travolta so we want people to stay tuned and hear more of your story.

1:47.9

But let's start with how you got in.

1:51.6

And we definitely want to get into what you've been doing

1:57.2

since you've exited, because you're one of the major forces, Tori Magoo, you know, messaging,

2:04.9

and now you have millions of views on TikTok, I hear.

2:08.1

It's outrageous.

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