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The LRB Podcast

Leaving Haiti

The LRB Podcast

London Review of Books

Society & Culture

4.4581 Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Since the 2010 earthquake, ordinary life in Haiti has become increasingly untenable: in January this year, armed gangs controlled around 80 per cent of the capital. Pooja Bhatia joins Tom to discuss Haitian immigration to Chile and the US, the self-defeating nature of US immigration policy and the double binds Haitian refugees find themselves in. Should you pay a bribe if it marks you out as a candidate for kidnapping? Can you be deported to a country without an operating airport? And if asylum laws protect people who are being persecuted, what happens when that covers an entire nation? Find Pooja's Haiti coverage on the episode page: lrb.me/haitipod Find out more about Bluets at the Royal Court theatre here: https://royalcourttheatre.com/whats-on/bluets/ Listen to the We Society Podcast here: https://acss.org.uk/we-society-podcast/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Thomas Jones, host of the LRB podcast, and before we begin today's episode,

0:05.1

I'd like to tell you about Bluettes, a play opening next month at the Royal Court Theatre in London,

0:10.9

starring Ben Wishaw, Emma Darcy and Kayla Michael.

0:14.5

Based on Maggie Nelson's book, Bluettes is a meditation on love and grief,

0:18.8

a story about depression and desire,

0:21.2

pleasure and pain,

0:22.4

and a person obsessed with the colour blue.

0:25.0

It's adapted for the stage by Margaret Perry

0:27.1

and directed by Katie Mitchell,

0:28.7

and it runs at the Royal Court

0:29.9

from the 17th of May to the 29th of June.

0:33.1

Click on the link in the description to book tickets.

0:51.2

Music on the link in the description to book tickets. You're listening to The London Review of Books podcast. I'm Thomas Jones. Today I'm speaking with Pujabatia, who teaches in the University Network for Human Rights and has a piece in the latest

0:58.1

issue of the paper on the difficulties faced by Haitian refugees trying to get to the United

1:02.6

States. Hello, Pugia, and thank you very much for joining me today.

1:06.2

Hi, Tom. Thank you for having me.

1:08.2

So maybe we should begin, I guess, with the reasons,

1:11.6

or some of the many reasons, Oldenew,

1:13.6

that people are having to flee Haiti.

1:16.8

There are a lot of reasons, certainly.

1:18.3

I would say that the current wave of immigration started in 2010

1:26.5

after the earthquake. I think that the immigration, people leaving Haiti,

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