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Learning to Lead SSA Saints | An Interview with Brent & Bruce Ebmeyer

Leading Saints Podcast

Leading Saints

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2021

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Brent Ebmeyer has been a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints his whole life and served a mission in Argentina. He and his wife Courtney married in 2004 and have five children. A year after they were sealed in the temple, Brent shared that he experiences same-sex attraction. It took them to the brink of separation, but through consistent communication, compassion, and love they have been able to find hope in their future together. Bruce Ebmeyer is Brent's brother. He has been married to his high school sweetheart, Carolyn, for 30 years and they have eight children. Born and raised in the church, he has served in various callings including full-time missionary, stake high counselor, stake Young Mens president, bishop, and is currently a stake president. He owns and operates a transportation company, and likes to work and travel. Highlights 3:55 Brent's experience sharing his same-sex attraction with his wife Thought it meant he would be leaving the Church Experience finding the North Star community 5:55 Bruce's experience finding out about Brent's SSA 7:45 How Brent got to the point of coming out to his wife and later to his family Realization that his wife was willing to go through this with him 12:45 Bruce's experience after finding out His wife got closer to Bruce's wife as she needed more support Realized he was wrong and it was not a choice Opened his heart to understanding as he interacted with people at the North Star conference 19:00 Brent's testimony of the gospel and the cognitive dissonance of also acknowledging his SSA Realizing the "why" of this experience is to help others Turning a struggle into a blessing by sharing with others 24:20 Bruce's recognition that sharing with others is vital to helping leaders serve church members experiencing SSA 28:40 What kept Brent in the Church was the power of his testimony that he could fall back on 30:45 We don't know why we have these trials, but we can work together to get through them 31:30 The experience at the North Star conference Leadership sessions available online this year and are still free for church leaders Gaining knowledge is gaining power and losing fear Links northstarlds.org Read the TRANSCRIPT of this podcast. Note: This transcript was machine-produced. We would be grateful for help correcting errors. You can help! Simply copy/paste the transcript text into a document, make the corrections, and then copy/paste the corrected text into a comment on the page (below) and we will get the corrected text published!

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My name is Alvin Van Orden and I'm a Bishop in Frederick, Maryland, and I support leading

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states because leadership is lonely, and this helps me feel like I'm not alone in

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and we're in this together. Leading Saints is a nonprofit organization dedicated to helping Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead.

0:44.0

And we do that through content creation, like this podcast, which we hope you subscribe to.

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We also have a website at leading Saints.org with thousands of incredible articles all about

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leadership in the context of being a Latter-day saint. We host virtual

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summits, live events, and also have a weekly newsletter to keep you up to date on

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all things happening with leading Saints.

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Visit leading Saints.org for more information.

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Today is a bit of a special episode because there is an upcoming conference that you've got to know about.

1:17.6

Now in the leading Saints world I realize I'm throwing a lot at you right now.

1:21.6

We have our mentally healthy Saints Virtual summit going on at the end.

1:25.0

It starts on the 18th of May and goes for a couple weeks.

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And then in June, we had the North Star Conference coming up on June 11th through the 12th and it is in Salt Lake City, Utah at the

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Sheridan Hotel, but it's also available to stream online and again I every year I come to you and

1:41.5

I just can't emphasize this conference enough.

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I've had the opportunity to serve on the board of North Star and to associate and

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and teach and be a part of this conference in years past.

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And this is a must attend.

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And it's not one of those things like,

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oh yeah, I attended that once as a leader.

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