And after a while, they just sense there's no love there.

You know, all the positive emotions are gone, and all they feel like is neither one of them are meeting each other's

needs. And that's when often they find somebody else at work or somewhere else and they get new emotions toward this other person.

And then it begins to grow and they quote falling in love with the other person and then they call home and say,

I just don't love you anymore and I'm out here.

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Dr Chapman, so grateful that you took the time to be on the Dad Tired podcast today. For the audience members who may not be familiar with your work

could you just give us an update on who you are and what you're up to these days.

Well my name is Gary Chapman and I've been a counselor for marriage and family

for a long long time and have a deep

appreciation for the role of the dad in the home and of course written many many

books and do a lot of speaking around the country on marriage and family so that's kind of my life.

Yeah, you said many years how many years have you been counseling?

Actually over 40. Wow.

What are there some things that have like shifted, you've seen shift, obviously

culture has shifted over those 40 years, but in regards to family,

have there been some major shifts

that you've seen over your time?

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