How was it?

Because you didn't have like a real estate background obviously like how did you learn all these like construction and then numbers and then

What I'm gonna say is we'll have to be bleeped out, but it's like,

T mess around and find out.

You know what I mean?

That was a lot of it.

Yeah, it's just like investing in yourself and like doubling down. I don't know it, you know, and like it's so frustrating to me because knowing that I don't know it and showing up as a female, like I definitely,

I can feel it when the contractors are like

trying to like push their way around me,

you know what I mean?

I feel like contractors do that to everyone.

Maybe, but like I just, I feel like they get how maybe there's just one in particular that I'm remembering just gets

hell aggressive with me and I'm just like we don't play this game I mean like I am the raw

person who I'll do this but like what was the original question?

How did you figure out? Just one thing at a time you know and then building

relationships like it's not like I had to figure out on day one how to do this entire

basement I didn't even know how to do the entire basement when I started it you know but it's like but it's like

building relationships with people too you know and like building

reciprocity so people who might have more background in construction helping them

not with the intention that they will help me down the road,

but just like helping other people.

And then eventually it comes back

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