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Learning from Making a Murderer

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🗓️ 29 February 2016

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

The Netflix documentary series Making a Murderer raises important questions about how investigators and prosecutors do their jobs. Cato's Tim Lynch and Shawn Armbrust of the Mid-Atlantic Innocence Project comment.

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This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Monday, February 29th, 2016.

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I'm Caleb Brown.

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The documentary series Making a Murderer presents substantial questions about how criminal investigators and prosecutors do their jobs in ways

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that sometimes do not serve justice. I recently spoke with Tim Lynch, director of

0:18.9

Cato's Project on Criminal Justice and Sean Armbrust, the Executive Director of the Mid-Atlantic

0:24.0

Innocence Project, to discover what viewers should take away from the Making a Murderer

0:28.2

series. The documentary is about a man named Stephen Avery who is involved with the criminal justice system

0:35.8

remarkably with two cases. The first case he's accused of attacking a woman and

0:41.2

he is convicted of that crime and serves 18 years in prison before DNA

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evidence shows that he was innocent of that crime and he's exonerated and gets out of prison.

0:53.0

And there's a lot of attention then focused on that miscarriage of justice,

0:58.0

how the system could have gone wrong, and then the series takes another turn where he is accused of a second crime, or even more horrendous crime of murdering a young woman.

1:09.0

And he is back in the criminal justice system, asserting his his innocence and the documentary goes

1:14.1

through his trial and raises questions about whether or not he's guilty of that

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second crime. I think that's a fair summary and I think what has really captivated people

1:25.8

it's a couple of different things. First of all I think there's a perception

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out there that the criminal justice system primarily traffics uncertainty.

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And so there's this idea that most of these cases are fairly clear cut and the right answer

1:40.9

is readily apparent.

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And that's not usually true.

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You know, many cases are clear cut.

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There are many guilty pleas in the system,

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