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Learning From James Clapper's Life in Intelligence

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 8 August 2018

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Virginia Heffernan talks to James R. Clapper, the former Director of National Intelligence, about his book Facts and Fear: Hard Truths From A Life In Intelligence. What did he think of the North Korea & Putin summits? How can our institutions protect themselves from cyber threats? And what else are we to make of the Mueller GRU indictments? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

One unpredictable instability is the new normal.

0:03.8

Roughly half of the world's currently stable countries

0:06.6

are at some risk of instability over the next two years.

0:10.8

Is it disgraceful?

0:12.0

Disgraceful that the intelligence agencies

0:15.7

allowed any information that turned out to be so false and fake?

0:19.9

Out.

0:20.5

There is so much fake news in the US right now,

0:22.6

they don't need to create manipulative truths,

0:24.3

they can just write them.

0:25.3

But Robert, and that's something that Nazi Germany

0:28.0

would have done and did do.

0:29.5

I think it's a disgrace.

0:36.5

Hello and welcome to Trumpcast.

0:38.0

I'm Virginia Heffernin.

0:39.2

So we have an atypical and thrilling guest on the show today.

0:42.7

And I feel very, very comfortable and relaxed right now on my birthday,

0:46.4

just talking to one of my hometown pals.

0:48.6

We used to party, just vaping and taking shrooms and an unfinished half-bilt house

0:53.6

in New Hampshire in the 80s playing Aerosmith.

0:55.9

And that's right.

0:57.2

He's General James Clapper,

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