Okay, guys, we have to be honest about this. It takes some time and energy to understand

her wives. We have to be intentional about that. But when you take the time

to learn what makes her feel loved, your marriage is going to really improve. I'm John Fuller

along with Greg Smalley and his wife Erin, who lead the focus marriage team.

And you two have modeled this so well.

And so Greg, you have to just listen now to Erin.

Oh, I like that.

What's something Greg does that helps you feel better understood, better connected to you?

I love it when he listens.

And you know, he just gives me space to share what's going on and he just listens but it takes it

to the next level when he validates when he is able to lean in and go gosh that

makes sense or I care about that or that matters to me, that is just the golden ticket.

But I also love it when he's sharing and reciprocating in that

it's weird that it makes me feel understood that it makes me

feel connected as well. So I love that you know just checking in and creating a

safe space that we can both

share. Yeah. I, the other night was talking to Dina, actually listening to Dina. She was

wondering about some things allowed and I had to correct myself. I was

starting to give her an answer and I said, wait you're not looking for answers you're just

thinking aloud and you just want me to hear that right she said right because I

know you don't have the answer it's like oh you feel understood because I'm not sure I feel understood right now.

But you're like I could be successful at that.

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