Hey, it's Rachel Cook, your modern mentor. I'm the founder of Lead Above Noise, a firm

specializing in activating workplaces, helping leaders create the conditions that unleash

bigger results while engaging our teams. If your team could use an activation boost,

a pulse check, a talk, a workshop, don't be shy. Today's episode is an interview with

Jacob Morgan about his latest book, Leading with Vulnerability. Jacob Morgan is a trained

futurist and one of the world's leading authorities on leadership, the future of work,

and the employee experience. Jacob's mission and passion is to create great leaders, engaged

employees, and future-ready organizations. And everything he does is based on those three pillars.

His work has been endorsed by Adam Grant, Seth Godin, Marshall Goldsmith, and more. Jacob is the

best-selling author of five books. The latest, which we discussed in this interview, again, is leading with vulnerability.

In this conversation, we get into why vulnerability is often misunderstood,

why it can actually be a hindrance to great leadership,

and actionable strategies you can use at any level to tap into your vulnerability superpowers.

Jacob Morgan, welcome to the Modern Mentor Podcast. What a pleasure to have you here.

Thank you for having me. I have really been looking forward to this conversation. I know you have

authored a number of books. We can talk about anything you want to talk about today, but I do know

that your most recent

is called Leading with Vulnerability.

And you have a bit of an interesting take and an interesting twist on that.

So I've got some questions lined up, but I would love to hear a little bit about the backstory.

So why this book and what is its kind of core message?

The core message of the book, a little bit counterintuitive to the

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